Disguised shoulds?

Greta Van Susteren, Fox News Analyst

Greta Van Susteren,
Fox News Analyst


We have been talking about the model of REBT where demanding (“shoulds,” et al) is at the root of disturbance.  I thought it might be a good occasion to reprise my concept of “disguised shoulds.”

I used to enjoy Greta Van Susteren when she was regular guest on Larry King giving legal analysis, which is, after all, her area of expertise.  However, she has risen way beyond those “humble” beginnings to become a so called “news analyst” on Fox Nooze, and although softer than many of the other analysts and guests, she nonetheless lends her voice to the chorus of relentless complaining, criticizing, and harping, seemingly designed more to inflame than inform.  This post is not really about Greta, and it is definitely not because the incident I am going to describe is so special.  Quite the contrary, it is all too common, unfortunately, a typical toxic strategy, and hardly limited to Fox Nooze, and hardly limited to the media. It is just that this is such an easy,  juicy example, and become an excellent teaching point. But keep in mind this is not a political discussion and not about the point Greta was trying to duplicitously make.

Very simply, as part of the ongoing attempt to degrade President Obama at every and all opportunity, speaking of recent terrorist attacks domestically and abroad, Greta posed the questions about President Obama,   Why doesn’t he call it ‘terrorism’?”  and Why didn’t he do something about ISIL sooner?”   Then she went on t repeat the questions more than once, expressing her exasperation, “I don’t understand why . . .”

Now, the important thing here as that the vast, vast majority of people exposed to this toxic stuff never question it.  At first blush, it sound like a perfectly reasonable, innocent question, and that is the way that people hear it, regard it and process it . . .  unless they have some training in rhetoric, REBT and/or General Semantics.  This “why?” question and “I don’t understand why . . .” are what I refer to as “disguised shoulds.”  (c) Rex 1989-2015  (hehehehe . . . ).  Once you are on to this, such toxic rhetoric is remarkable easy to catch, identify and de-code into real English.  It’s easy!  The translation of “why?” here in real English is: “President Obama SHOULD call it terrorism,  and he SHOULD have done something sooner about the growing threat in Syria!”  And then, although she did not say this in so many words, her exasperation and subsequent comments strongly imply “And is it TERRIBLE that President Obama didn’t do what he clearly should have done!  And as he didn’t do what he SHOULD do, he is a BAD PRESIDENT!”  Bold red, as always, indicates specific cognitive distortions.

  1.  So, why is this important? Aren’t I just quibbling and playing “semantic games.”  Definitely not to the first, and definitely not to the second, if you understand that the common usage of “just semantics” meaning an intellectual exercise that has no practical value, is not the way we understand and use the term in REBT or General Semantics.  Basic REBT 101  reminds us that language matters, especially as irrational beliefs, distorted thinking and unhealthy, negative self-talk provoke disturbed emoting which pushes us toward behavior that is unrewarding and self-defeating.  These are high stakes, even though my message may have become diluted from repeating too often.

So, what is the problem with Greta’s “why?” question tact?  

First of all, it is inherently inflammatory.  Remember that shoulds, et al directed outward toward others tend to provoke anger, often righteous indignation in the person who is shoulding. Directed inward, toward self, and they tend to provoke guilt.  While guilt–experienced as objective regret and as accepting-responsibility-for one’s behavior–can be constructive, and while anger-tied-to-justice can sometimes be noble, for the most part, in my opinion, these emotions have little practical value in the modern world, and their possible occasional usefulness is over-shadowed a hundred-fold by their destructive capacity.  So, wile inflaming people or attempting to do so may sell papers and increase viewers, I don’t think it is a very healthy or constructive thing to do, especially for  vast numbers of people who are completely naive to the nature of the process we are exploring here, an do not realize they are being manipulated.  I also think there may be an unfortunate and unhealthy tendency for people to delude themselves into believing  that being provoked and inflamed, passes for thinking deeply about an issue, and is the same thing as actually doing something about it.   However, this inflammation is no more constructive than any Saturday night bar room argument among friends.  Fun, perhaps, but not very useful, and can and does lead to dangerous escalation.


Secondly, these “disguised shoulds” are dishonest.  They attempt to pass of opinion as fact, and try to lend authenticity to the opinion by calling on some abstract entity or principle.   Who says you “should”?  God?  The Universe?  The Supreme Court?  The local sheriff?  We don’t know exactly, but it points to some higher abstract principle without having to say so outright.


If Greta simply says “I want President Obama to call it ‘terrorism,’ and I wanted him to act sooner regarding the crisis in Syria,” that puts the discussion on an entirely different level. Then she has to take responsibility and explain and defend her view.  And it affords us the opportunity to respond “I understand what you are saying, but I disagree. Here is what I think . . .”  That’s a dialog, that’s a fair and open debate.  But should stops any real sense of debate.  If  you buy into the should, consciously or unconsciously, you don’t get to have an opinion about should.  Should is should, it is absolute and surely comes from some “higher authority.”  It also deprives the shoulder of insight into their own thinking if they delude themselves into believing that they are advancing some “higher authority” rather than merely stating an opinion.  Opinions expressed honestly–even passionately–are inherently neither right nor wrong.  That may scare the hell out of some people who are more comfortable operating on the basis of some “moral authority,” rather than from what Gary Emery coined  The Choice System vs. the Should System.


Understand that even though, as I discussed in a recent post, behavioral science and therapy is evolving at lightning speed, this old stuff, this basic stuff is still a BOMBSHELL for many people, and for them may represent a paradigm shift comparable to the shift from Newtonian to Einsteinian physics.  So, tread lightly, and don’t necessarily expect to win too many debates over it, make many friends,  or save too many souls!


Still, anybody who does “get” this, can being working with it immediately.  Old fashioned soap operas are a great place to start, and the entire trajectory of the plot lines and the dramatic tension is (artificially) generated by having the characters relentlessly trying to persuade each other what the should or shouldn’t do.  Fox Nooze is another obvious place to practice decoding, however, Fox hardly has the  monopoly on shoulding, nor do conservatives. Fox is just probably more tenacious and relentless about it than other news outlets.  Your friends and family probably also supply an endless supply of shoulds and other material to decode.  Then, of course, there is the nutty thinking that comes out of your own dear, sweet noodle.


. . . So, get busy!




Khon Kaen, Thailand






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Originally posted 2014-10-01 06:33:55.


  • rexall says:

    Fri 3 Oct 2014, 7:35 am

    Good Morning All,

    More distortions from Greta . . .

    Someone was offended by my post about about “Disgused Shoulds.” First, let me make a disclaimer. I bear Greta no personal hostility, but she is a public figure, probably makes SERIOUS $$$, enjoys acclaim and a fan-base and other perks and spoils. She opines publicly which generates public discourse. I am not betraying any confidences, only commenting on public information that a few million other people saw this morning. I use her as a “visual aid” because she provides excellent, clear teaching points regarding REBT, rhetoric and General Semantics, and because I usually catch a few minutes of her show over breakfast on weekday mornings.

    –end of disclaimer–

    Short and sweet this morning. During an address to some graduating class somewhere, President Obama took a playful dig at Fox News. Greta apparently didn’t like that:

    Greta: “We need the President to act more presidential” She goes on, but this short statement is the crux of the teaching point.

    There are only eight words in the above sentence, however, it contains one “disguised should” and one abstraction that is duplicitous and functions as a distortion.

    1. Identify the disguised should and the abstraction.

    2. Why are they problematic?

    3. Re-write the sentence to be more honest.

    Extra credit, if someone, anyone, is willing to look at my longer post from yesterday about disguised shoulds and point out a couple of examples where I am employing disguised shoulds.



  • Lilly Rose says:

    Couldn’t using shoulds be used as a teaching technique like for small children or even teens? Wouldn’t it make them think about there actions if you ask them why they did something. For example: Your teen took the car without asking. “Why didn’t you ask if you could borrow the car” “Because you would have said no.” “If you had asked and had a good reason I may have said yes.” Meaning you should have asked before taking the car.

  • Rex says:

    Hi Lilly Rose,

    “Shoulds” can be used in a rational, helpful way. However, the distinctions are complicated, and I believe that humans have a perverse tendency to use them as absolutist, moralistic demands. Personally, I try to avoid “should”, “ought”, “must” and their disguised variations.

    Your example of not asking to borrow the car is a good case in point. I doubt that most teenagers would be forthright and honest or even self-aware enough to admit “…because you would have said no.”

    Wouldn’t the conversation be “cleaner” and altogether more honest and helpful if the parent leads with “I am angry that you used my car without asking.”

  • Lilly Rose says:

    I guess I see it more as making them think about there actions and why they did them so they can learn from them. Instead of thinking “I won’t do that because I don’t want to make [person] angry.” They can think “I won’t do this because it is wrong” and if they do decide to take that action because they want to make [person] angry then there are bigger issues.

  • Rex says:

    Hi Lilly Rose,

    It’s (a little) complicated but is one of the core foundations of REBT. It is best to read one of the good primers such as “How to Stubbornly Refused to Make Yourself Miserable” by Dr. Ellis. There are many other good ones to start with.

    My REBT spin on your idea of teaching right from wrong is that REBT shies away from moralistic judgments such as “wrong.” If others choose to have those concepts, it’s fine, but it is not the side of the street that REBT works. Having respect for boundaries and for the property of others is a concept invented by humans to promote group harmony and ultimately group survival. As humans are social animals who live in social groups, if they want to prosper, it is a good idea to learn how to get along in those groups and follow rules and property and boundaries. In my opinion, this “spin” can be taught even to young children.

    Of course, parents establish rules and enforce consequences.

    So, I have no problem with “you should not have have borrowed the car without asking” if it is followed by “because it is against the rules (or because it violates our agreement)” However to ask a question that basically has no rational answer (Why did you borrow the car without asking?”) instead of just coming out and saying what’s on your mind seems a bit manipulative and “crazy making” in my opinion.

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